March 6th, 2010 |
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ABCs of Vintage Football Cards, error cards, General Collecting Info, Interesting Message Board Threads
Occasionally you will see uncut sheets of vintage cards up for sale. Studying uncut sheets can give you insight into why some cards are much harder to find than others. For example, by looking at the uncut sheets for a set, you can see why some cards are considered short prints or double prints. For most sets, the price guides indicate which cards are short prints or double prints, and they adjust the cards’ prices accordingly. I say most, because I believe some short prints are not documented–those in the old Philadelphia sets, for instance.

(Image from legendaryauctions.com; click on it to see whole sheet.)
Short prints and double prints are just part of the story. A card’s position on an uncut sheet can also affect its scarcity, because cards on the corners and edges of the sheets were more likely to be damaged in production. I have not seen this factored into price guides’ prices, though: if two common cards were printed in equal numbers, the price guides will usually–if not always–assign them the same price.
The price guides do assign higher prices to the first and last cards in a set, asserting that the first and last cards generally got more wear than the other cards. Supposedly, lots of kids sorted their cards into numerical order, put rubber bands around them, and banged them around. In practice, though, I find that first and last cards aren’t noticeably scarcer in high grades than the other cards, unless they happened to be on the corners and edges of the sheets.
A recent–and timely!–thread in the Collectors Universe forums includes pictures of numerous uncut baseball card sheets and a nice discussion about short prints and double prints. The thread shows the patterns that the card companies used when arranging cards from sets of different sizes on the sheets. Depending on the size of the set (or series within a set), the card companies repeated rows of cards on the sheets in different patterns. I recommend reading the thread.
Pictured here is the card I always use as an example of one that is scarce because of its position on the sheet. It’s a 1960 Fleer Jim Woodard card, and it was in the bottom-left corner of the sheet. The Woodard is easily the toughest card in the set–PSA has graded only four of them 7 or better–and a PSA 8 would sell for hundreds of dollars on eBay. Most other PSA 8 1960 Fleer commons sell for $10-20.
Over the past year, I have put together a number of “virtual” uncut sheets in the Vintage Football Card Gallery, including one for the 1960 Fleer set. I have included a little discussion for each sheet, as well. Rather than repeat the information here, I’ll just point you to the pages for the sheets:
Here are more of the ABCs:
December 30th, 2009 |
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Yesterday I put together more virtual uncut sheets, this time for 1968 Topps football cards. Again you can see that cards on the corners and edges of the sheets are the toughest to find in high grade.
(Click on the image to see the sheets.)
December 2nd, 2009 |
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Today I assembled another virtual uncut sheet, this time for 1966 Philadelphia football cards. Those who collect the set know that some cards are much tougher than others. It appears that the cards in some rows were short printed.
(Click on the image to see the sheet.)
November 12th, 2009 |
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Today I put together another virtual uncut sheet page, this time for 1969 Topps football cards. The page includes both the first and second series sheets. These are the first sheets I’ve seen where half of the cards were printed upside down.
(Click on the image to see both full sheets.)
October 8th, 2009 |
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Today I put together another virtual uncut sheet, this time 1960 Topps. As usual, it turns out that the toughest cards to find in high grade are the ones on the corners and edges of the sheet. Anyone know why some team cards are oriented one way on the sheet, and some are oriented the other way?
(Click on the image to see the whole sheet.)
June 22nd, 2009 |
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Football Card Trivia
Today I put together another “virtual uncut sheet” page, this time for 1961 Fleer second series sheets. The 1961 Fleer second series contains cards from the eight AFL teams of the time, including rookie cards of Jim Otto and Don Maynard. It also includes one card with a mistaken identity.
While the price guides do not designate any 1961 Fleer cards as short prints, it is clear that some cards are much scarcer than others in high grade. Uncut sheets can show why some cards are tougher than others.
June 13th, 2009 |
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Football Card Trivia, Sites I Like
On the topic of uncut sheets, I never realized that there were multiple 1962 Post football cards on each cereal box. Yesterday I came across a full back panel on the Vintage Classics page of TheCowboysGuide.com. It makes sense that each box had several cards on it: with 200 cards in the set, one card per box would have required a kid to eat an awful lot of cereal!
Steve Liskey, the owner of the site, points out that some cards could be less common because they were on unpopular cereal. That makes sense: maybe the short prints, like Jim Johnson’s pre-rookie card, were on the back of Grape Nuts boxes?
June 12th, 2009 |
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Today I put together another “virtual uncut sheet” page, this time for 1963 Fleer cards. More reasons to be skeptical of your price guide!
June 2nd, 2009 |
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I spotted an uncut sheet of 1970 Topps Super cards on eBay this week, so I thought I’d create a virtual uncut sheet for that set. My previous virtual uncut sheets have been 1959 Topps and 1960 Fleer.
As I wrote in an earlier post, the cards in this set have attractive fronts and ugly backs. In addition to the photo, each card features the player’s name in script that looks like a signature. It’s not a signature, though: the script is the same on all of the cards. While 1970 Topps Super baseball cards have facsimiles of the players’ actual signatures, the football cards got short shrift.
May 19th, 2009 |
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I’ve never seen a full uncut sheet of 1960 Fleer football cards, so I created a page in the Football Card Gallery that shows what I think an uncut sheet looked like. I’m calling it the Virtual 1960 Fleer Uncut Sheet. To piece it together, I looked at some uncut strips like these and filled in the blanks. The page also shows some wrong-back cards from the set.
November 11th, 2008 |
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As the About page says, the Vintage Football Card Gallery is a reference site. The cards in the gallery are not for sale, but I do have lots of cards for sale on my Nearmint’s Vintage Football Cards site.
You can search the gallery for your favorite set, team, player, or college. To do complex searches, such as “Show all the rookie cards of Hall of Fame players named Bob,” try the Advanced Search page.
On the Site Map you will find links to other miscellaneous pages. Among them:
- The sports card auction finder, a tool for searching eBay auctions that is tailored for vintage sports cards
- A page that shows a bunch of cards that picture the wrong player
- A page showing lots of vintage football card wrappers
- Interactive team cards: 1959 Topps New York Giants, 1961 Topps Green Bay Packers, 1963 Topps Dallas Cowboys, 1964 Topps Oakland Raiders, and 1967 Philadelphia Cleveland Browns
- Puzzles of Bart Starr, Len Dawson, and Fran Tarkenton, assembled from the backs of 1968 and 1969 Topps football cards
- Examples of pre-rookie cards, minor issues that were printed before players’ commonly accepted rookie cards
- “Virtual” uncut sheets of cards: 1948 Bowman, 1958 Topps, 1959 Topps, 1960 Fleer, 1960 Topps, 1961 Fleer, 1962 Topps, 1963 Fleer, 1966 Philadelphia, 1968 Topps, 1969 Topps, and 1970 Topps Super.
I add to the gallery whenever I have time, so check back occasionally for new cards. Enjoy your visit!
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