Comments on: L is for Leaf http://www.nearmintcards.com/blog/2009/10/23/l-is-for-leaf/ News, trivia, and musings of interest to vintage football card collectors Fri, 03 Feb 2012 15:03:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: 1949 Leaf Football Cards | Nearmint's Vintage Football Card Blog http://www.nearmintcards.com/blog/2009/10/23/l-is-for-leaf/comment-page-1/#comment-4559 1949 Leaf Football Cards | Nearmint's Vintage Football Card Blog Mon, 25 Apr 2011 13:47:33 +0000 http://www.nearmintcards.com/blog/?p=1726#comment-4559 [...] backs of the cards in 1949, so it actually is easy to tell the two years apart. My earlier article, L is for Leaf, includes pictures of the backs of both 1948 and 1949 cards. Leaf also changed the card numbers in [...] [...] backs of the cards in 1949, so it actually is easy to tell the two years apart. My earlier article, L is for Leaf, includes pictures of the backs of both 1948 and 1949 cards. Leaf also changed the card numbers in [...]

]]> By: 1948 Leaf Football Cards in the Vintage Football Card Gallery | Nearmint's Vintage Football Card Blog http://www.nearmintcards.com/blog/2009/10/23/l-is-for-leaf/comment-page-1/#comment-3898 1948 Leaf Football Cards in the Vintage Football Card Gallery | Nearmint's Vintage Football Card Blog Tue, 30 Nov 2010 22:54:47 +0000 http://www.nearmintcards.com/blog/?p=1726#comment-3898 [...] more details on the 1948 and 1949 Leaf sets, see my earlier blog article, L is for Leaf. I also updated that article over the weekend, adding links where appropriate to the 1948 cards in [...] [...] more details on the 1948 and 1949 Leaf sets, see my earlier blog article, L is for Leaf. I also updated that article over the weekend, adding links where appropriate to the 1948 cards in [...]

]]> By: OTWCards http://www.nearmintcards.com/blog/2009/10/23/l-is-for-leaf/comment-page-1/#comment-2264 OTWCards Sat, 01 May 2010 01:55:16 +0000 http://www.nearmintcards.com/blog/?p=1726#comment-2264 It wouldn't be so frustrating if Krausse, Beckett and PSA remained consistent with regard to the variations. In the sets you mentioned, they do not recognize ANY of those variations. However, in the Leaf set, they recognize a small number of the White Backgrounds, several of the jersey number variations and some of the jersey color variations. It should either be all inclusive or all exclusive and not what the whim of the editor was when he talked to the person that had the limited number of variations when the guide was structured. Having submitted my findings along with photographic evidence, I still find it interesting that all parties pass the buck and would rather wait until one of the others makes the edit. I guess it's too difficult to edit the set or in Krausse's case, correct the fact that Hendren is NOT a rookie in the 1949 set as he already has a card in the 1948 set. In fact, all 48 of the 1949's are repeats of the 1948 set throughout both series. It wouldn’t be so frustrating if Krausse, Beckett and PSA remained consistent with regard to the variations. In the sets you mentioned, they do not recognize ANY of those variations. However, in the Leaf set, they recognize a small number of the White Backgrounds, several of the jersey number variations and some of the jersey color variations. It should either be all inclusive or all exclusive and not what the whim of the editor was when he talked to the person that had the limited number of variations when the guide was structured.

Having submitted my findings along with photographic evidence, I still find it interesting that all parties pass the buck and would rather wait until one of the others makes the edit. I guess it’s too difficult to edit the set or in Krausse’s case, correct the fact that Hendren is NOT a rookie in the 1949 set as he already has a card in the 1948 set. In fact, all 48 of the 1949′s are repeats of the 1948 set throughout both series.

]]> By: nearmint http://www.nearmintcards.com/blog/2009/10/23/l-is-for-leaf/comment-page-1/#comment-1574 nearmint Sun, 10 Jan 2010 12:14:46 +0000 http://www.nearmintcards.com/blog/?p=1726#comment-1574 Hi OTW, thanks for your comments. We have the real expert here now! I dug up <a href="http://forums.collectors.com/messageview.cfm?catid=37&threadid=591671&STARTPAGE=3" rel="nofollow">an old Collectors Universe thread</a> with one of OTW's uncatalogued white background cards. It's the Girard card, about the 8th post down. There are variations in other football sets that I have not seen recognized, either. There are the <a href="http://www.footballcardgallery.com/uncut_sheet/1963+Fleer/" rel="nofollow">striped/non-striped 1963 Fleer cards</a>, <a href="http://www.nearmintcards.com/blog/2008/12/18/new-cards-for-sale-ungraded-1963-topps/" rel="nofollow">blue- and purple-background 1963 Topps cards</a>, and a <a href="http://www.footballcardgallery.com/uncut_sheet/1969+Topps" rel="nofollow">1969 Topps Jim Turner card with either a red or yellow dot.</a> I haven't tried to get these catalogued, but I can imagine how frustrating it could be. Hi OTW, thanks for your comments. We have the real expert here now!

I dug up an old Collectors Universe thread with one of OTW’s uncatalogued white background cards. It’s the Girard card, about the 8th post down.

There are variations in other football sets that I have not seen recognized, either. There are the striped/non-striped 1963 Fleer cards, blue- and purple-background 1963 Topps cards, and a 1969 Topps Jim Turner card with either a red or yellow dot. I haven’t tried to get these catalogued, but I can imagine how frustrating it could be.

]]> By: OTWCards http://www.nearmintcards.com/blog/2009/10/23/l-is-for-leaf/comment-page-1/#comment-1569 OTWCards Sat, 09 Jan 2010 19:20:38 +0000 http://www.nearmintcards.com/blog/?p=1726#comment-1569 The 1948 Leaf cards also were printed on two different stocks. There was a cream or white stock that is most common and a gray stock that is less common in the low numbers, but appears more regularly in the high number series. There is also a myriad of color variations within the set and white background versions of the cards where the background color was never printed. Sadly, most of the white background variations remain uncataloged, although I have the them as part of my master list although PSA, Beckett and Krausse refuse to accept this data. The 1948 Leaf cards also were printed on two different stocks. There was a cream or white stock that is most common and a gray stock that is less common in the low numbers, but appears more regularly in the high number series.

There is also a myriad of color variations within the set and white background versions of the cards where the background color was never printed. Sadly, most of the white background variations remain uncataloged, although I have the them as part of my master list although PSA, Beckett and Krausse refuse to accept this data.

]]> By: nearmint http://www.nearmintcards.com/blog/2009/10/23/l-is-for-leaf/comment-page-1/#comment-490 nearmint Fri, 30 Oct 2009 22:19:33 +0000 http://www.nearmintcards.com/blog/?p=1726#comment-490 Pretty creative, Tony, using the 49's as fillers for the 48's. They look just the same, so why not? I agree with you about centering: there can be a huge difference in attractiveness between a nicely centered PSA 5 and a poorly centered one. Pretty creative, Tony, using the 49′s as fillers for the 48′s. They look just the same, so why not?

I agree with you about centering: there can be a huge difference in attractiveness between a nicely centered PSA 5 and a poorly centered one.

]]> By: Tony Olney http://www.nearmintcards.com/blog/2009/10/23/l-is-for-leaf/comment-page-1/#comment-488 Tony Olney Fri, 30 Oct 2009 21:39:43 +0000 http://www.nearmintcards.com/blog/?p=1726#comment-488 Great article. I collect Leaf HOFers and search for them almost daily and am challenge to find mid grade centered cards. Sometimes the '49s are good filler cards until the right '48 comes along. I got a really nice PSA 5 '49 Baugh for low money and it looks great on display. Great article. I collect Leaf HOFers and search for them almost daily and am challenge to find mid grade centered cards. Sometimes the ’49s are good filler cards until the right ’48 comes along. I got a really nice PSA 5 ’49 Baugh for low money and it looks great on display.

]]> By: CPAdave http://www.nearmintcards.com/blog/2009/10/23/l-is-for-leaf/comment-page-1/#comment-466 CPAdave Tue, 27 Oct 2009 15:49:38 +0000 http://www.nearmintcards.com/blog/?p=1726#comment-466 Another great article. I had no idea about the skip numbering. That does sound pretty shady. BTW, I love the crazed look on Bulldog Turner's 1948 RC. I would not want to mess with him! Another great article. I had no idea about the skip numbering. That does sound pretty shady.

BTW, I love the crazed look on Bulldog Turner’s 1948 RC. I would not want to mess with him!

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